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Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:10 am
by Neorion
Hey folks,

since getting the VFR I have not been out on it too much but when I have its mainly been out near oldmeldrum, Alford, Inverurie.
I seem to be getting more and more confident at slow speeds and straight lines but cornering is something that I am not great at. I know this will come in time and experience and I am going to look at further training but in the meantime and with the fact we just bought a new car I have been reading online that you can get 3 DVD's as well.

A Street, a Track, an Open Road", "Great Roads, Great Rides" and "Police Advanced Riding Techniques"

does anyone have any of these that I could borrow or anything similar?

Cheers

Kev

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:12 am
by Baza
I might have the great roads great rides one. I got sent it when I sent off for think bike stickers (free). Its very basic though. All you need is practice, better to go in slow, and get it right then build it up. Go out on some novice ride outs loads of people will give you pointers. ( :wife I wish my bike worked :angryfire :angryfire )

Sign up for bike safe, first date is this sunday for £20, join the IAM for about £100 or get advanced training from the likes of Keith Henderson. I'm sure anything would be money well spent.

I'll try to remember the sites where the DART training sildes are and i'm sure one of the IAM groups down south had a dvd for a couple of quid.

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:43 am
by Tones
Baza wrote: All you need is practice, better to go in slow, and get it right then build it up. Go out on some novice ride outs loads of people will give you pointers. ( :wife I wish my bike worked :angryfire :angryfire )

Sign up for bike safe, first date is this sunday for £20, join the IAM for about £100 or get advanced training from the likes of Keith Henderson. I'm sure anything would be money well spent.

I'll try to remember the sites where the DART training sildes are and i'm sure one of the IAM groups down south had a dvd for a couple of quid.
:stupid

Get out on runs, sit behind some of the more experienced riders, watch and learn. I've learnt sooo much following the likes of pervy pixie and I think it was Zax and a few others. Just don't get fixated on their exact lines, if they go off you follow ;)

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:51 am
by airwave
Phone Keith Henderson.
buy him a coffee midway through your 4 hours with him.

best money you'll ever spend on a bike.

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:56 am
by CazB
airwave wrote:Phone Keith Henderson.
buy him a coffee midway through your 4 hours with him.

best money you'll ever spend on a bike.
:stupid

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:04 pm
by Zathos
airwave wrote:Phone Keith Henderson.
buy him a coffee midway through your 4 hours with him.

best money you'll ever spend on a bike.
:worthy

Well worth every pennt :2up

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:50 pm
by RK6
I've got the 'street track open road' DVD, got it free when I bought a new Suzi. . .

You're welcome to borrow it but I'd highly doubt that you'll learn much from it.

As has been said, get your arse out on a few runs and follow some lines!

Better still, phone Keith Henderson and spend some time on the road with him. :cool :2up

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:36 pm
by Dave
I would say that the spoken word, face to face, and the ability to ask questions is a greatest way to learn.

Some magazine writers tell you how to of shave 1/10th of a second off taking a corner on public roads, in my view this is not good.
The track is the only place that the corners are close to textbook, but even then the track can change from lap to lap.


On the road every corner is different.

Doing the same road every day, the same corners change character daily.
Moisture, flat bunnies, oil/diesel, moving bunnies, grit, mud and Bambi all find their on to “the prefect textbook line”, so you need to change from the text book to the real world.

For me, the perfect line is any line that I don’t scare myself or anyone else with.


Don’t forget, when you are following someone, their line will be different from your line, as they will have a different bike (or setup) and they will be doing things differently, ie leaning, counter steering, throttle control, speed and gear on entering the corner.
And also, they might have cockedup their line on that particular corner you are watching them on.


As noted by lots of others, get out there and put some miles on the bike and in your head.

If you can afford it, get additional training. Keith has a tremendous manner about the way he explains things. I am sure there are other trainers out there, but Keith is the only one that I know off and would recommend for giving further training.

Keep doing what you are doing with this thread, ask questions and enter into discussions.

Don’t assume anything, and don’t assume that just because an experienced rider says something, that it is relevant to you or is correct.


The only advice that I feel qualified to give is:
:wife “Be able to stop in the distance you can see” :wife
The world keeps turning and everything else keeps changing.

Get out there, enjoy, and be safe :2up :freebird

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:39 pm
by al
Some of us have been riding longer than others but we are ALL still learning!

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:40 pm
by Dave
Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) wrote:Some of us have been riding longer than others but we are ALL still learning!

oh yes :2up

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:00 pm
by RK6
Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) wrote:Some of us have been riding longer than others but we are ALL still learning!
Well said!

IMHO that's what keeps it interesting! :2up

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:15 pm
by Akrapovic
Keith Henderson is the man!! :2up

Excellent tuition and he's down to earth.

Jokes are crap though. :nono

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:44 pm
by Neorion
Thanks for the info/advice folks :2up

I know I need to get the miles in, just knowing where to go, correction its the getting home again I can't believe it's not butter!! And I have no intention of being stupid and pushing my limits at least my heads there ;)

What would Keith normally charge and where is he based, does he work in one the bike shops?

can someone PM me a number for him, I will give him a call after the joy that is payday but taking its loving time this month!

Cheers

Kev

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:10 pm
by al
Look in this post for details - viewtopic.php?f=53&t=12560

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:36 pm
by Newbus
Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) wrote:Look in this post for details - viewtopic.php?f=53&t=12560

Eccosse advanced is Keith Henderson or phone 01224 716100 based in bucksburn

Re: Bike training DVD's

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:21 am
by fazermal
Akrapovic wrote:Keith Henderson is the man!! :2up

Excellent tuition and he's down to earth.

Jokes are crap though. :nono
Loves cream buns as well ;)