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law for learners

Post by r6inblack » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:54 am

Hi ,can anybody out there clear up a question I have?
Have held a full bike licence for the past twenty or so years and after lots of nagging from the wife have finally decided to sit my car test,Yeah I know. Anyway the question is if after passing the car test if I do am I subject to the same 2 year law for learner drivers in regards to 6 points and have to retest and if so does this mean I lose my licence on the bike as well and have to retest on that, and is there any difference in whether I recieved the points on the bike or in the car. Driving instructor seems a bit unsure but seems a bit harsh to lose my licence for something I have been riding that long all because I might make some mistakes in a car I'm new to.

Any advice appreciated thanks

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Re: law for learners

Post by baldy » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:02 am

Its the same Licence so if you get points while driving the car or the bike it makes no difference.Reach 12 points and your Banned on the car also banned on the bike :??? Its just one licence which covers both......Im not sure on the ponts after you pass but i would have thought it would be the same.

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Re: law for learners

Post by Akrapovic » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:13 am

As far as I know (and just had a quick look on here), the 2 year thing is just for first time licence holders.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Le ... DG_4022566

What the New Drivers Act means for you
If you have just passed your first driving test, the New Drivers Act means you’re ‘on probation’ for two years. If you reach six or more penalty points in that time, you’ll lose your licence. Then, you’ll have to apply and pay for a new provisional licence. This means you’ll be a learner driver again.

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Post by r6inblack » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:18 am

found this on one website which tends to suggest you might be right- Drivers who already have a full licence on one category and pass a test in another do not have their probationary period extended or revived, because the scheme is aimed at first time drivers.
Here's hoping ,wife would never here the end of it if I lost my bike licence just because she wants me to run her back and forth to the shops

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Post by Akrapovic » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:20 am

Obviously you are subject to the hazard perception nonsense in your test, but because your a road user you (should) already know the rules of the road.

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Post by lawzer » Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:41 pm

if you've had a full bike licence for over 10 years you don't need to do your theory test.

one other thing - you'll need to phone up to book your test. cause you don't need the theory, you cannot book it online. as "computer says no"......

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Post by r6inblack » Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:58 pm

surely that can't be right my instructor who is also a biker say's I must do my theory , where do you get your info from ?

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Post by Graybeard » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:33 pm

lawzer wrote:if you've had a full bike licence for over 10 years you don't need to do your theory test.

one other thing - you'll need to phone up to book your test. cause you don't need the theory, you cannot book it online. as "computer says no"......
I had been a car driver for 20 years but whnen I went to do my bike test I had to do the theory first, don't think it matters how long you have had one licence, if you are to sit a test in a diferent category now you have to do the theory

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Post by r6inblack » Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:16 pm

checking up just now but according to the DSA if you have A entitlement as well as B1 then you don't have to do the theory

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Post by Crazy Turbo Beast » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:46 pm

I had to do theory and hazard perception both for car resit and bike test.

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Post by Crazy Turbo Beast » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:48 pm

bike theory test is different to car theory test, so would expect you would have to do it.
Don't see why experienced road users have to do the hazard perception though.

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Post by Dave » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:56 am

Crazy Turbo Beast wrote: Don't see why experienced road users have to do the hazard perception though.
Like since when did “the law” or any legalisation from the DVLA and the government regarding biking make any sense :confused

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Re: law for learners

Post by lawzer » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:43 pm

r6inblack wrote:surely that can't be right my instructor who is also a biker say's I must do my theory , where do you get your info from ?
i did my car test 18 months ago and when i tried to book the test online it kept giving me an error (had bike licence for 12 years).

when i phoned em up the welsh chappie went away and came back telling me i had no requirement to do the theory.

phone em up and ask.

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Re: law for learners

Post by r6inblack » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:42 pm

Hi guys thanks for all your help just recieved this email from the " Driving Standards Agency "




Thank you for your email dated 03 April



I can inform you that you do not have to take the theory/hazard perception test.



As you have passed your motorcycle test before February 2001 you will have full category B1 on your licence; the B1 entitlement makes you exempt from sitting the car theory test. When applying for a B licence you are simply upgrading within a vehicle category, which makes you exempt from sitting the theory test again.



Please contact us again if you need any further help.



Yours sincerely



Elaine robinson



Customer Service Representative

Driving Standards Agency

Tel: 0300 200 1122

Fax: 0300 200 1155

Email: customer.services@dsa.gsi.gov.uk

All I can say is thank god for being able to drive a robin reliant on a bike licence all those years ago , also do not have the two year six points resit to worry about either. Won't have to watch out for the rozzers praying all the time now.

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